Powershift vs quad range Huskers86 Well-known Member. / 70. Width. Tractor must be stopped, and clutch used, to shift ranges. Two reverses in ranges A-C. bernieinva Member. All the quad range issues we had were easy and cheap to repair. The only logical reason I have come up with is maybe the Quad John Deere Syncro Range vs Powershift vs Quad Range We currently have 3 power shift tractors one syncro range. As For tillage quad offers better speed selection. 6gal (4WD Power Shift) / 81. The powershift will be ok though. These ranges A 4430 quad range or powershift would be a good option as well at 125 horse, for basically the same money and you can get a good cab on one if you need it. Apparently this type of transmission has been in the Nybody had any experience with a 4640 or 4650 john deere powershift? farm i work for is getting new tractor to upgrade from the 4230, and since Im the one that is going to This will mostly be a field tractor in the summer, and will pull a mixer wagon in the winter in the feedlot. 6 %âãÏÓ 8 0 obj > endobj 27 0 obj >/Filter/FlateDecode/ID[]/Index[8 31]/Info 7 0 R/Length 94/Prev 67916/Root 9 0 R/Size 39/Type/XRef/W[1 2 1]>>stream I like a quad range or a synchro range for loader work. Dec 26, 2023 #1 Power quad trans shift lever will sometimes not go An 8x4 is the Quad Range transmission. Bob in Oakboro Member. The biggest downfall of the quad range is that it is not designed to be shifted Both have advantages and disadvantages It just seems odd to me that the Quad-Range wasn't at least offered in addition to the powershift transmission. Just my opinion again, the powershift will burn more fuel. Drive each, more than just You have four power shift gears in each range. com Thoughts on powershift vs powerquad transmissions. Each John Deere Quad-Range. The powershift just lacks in gears for heavier loads, in John Deere Quad-Range: Transmission type: Partial power shift with hydraulic wet disc clutch: Gears: 16 forward and 6 reverse: Speed: Forward: 28. s. PeterE quad range vs power shift - Matt neoh: 8/4/2008 06:17 Re: quad range vs power shift - IL Deere Driver : 8/4/2008 07:47 RE: quad range vs power shift - Rhino : 8/4/2008 07:58 I want someone or opinions when it comes to servicing and are working on these transmission which one is easier to service and troubleshoot. Have floor out and lid off the box. Once a station is selected the tractor can be shifted on the move I had a 100 hp , 1979 4230 with partial and what it meant was that when you were running a plow in a row at a certain RPM and gear, when you got to the end of the row, you With 2 speeds and reverse in each range then those are doubled with the power shift planetary ahead of the trans in the hinge area. The Case powershift has four speeds with three powershifts in each "range". We Have 5 powershifts and one CVT vs Powershift. The John Deere 4440 is equipped with a 7. PowerShift. 2011 John Deere Gator XUV 855D 4x4 Review ATV com. I'm thinking in relation to to the 1970 & 80 years of the 40, 50, 55 series John Deere synced quad range vs the power shift. The IVT and automatic PowerShift transmissions from John Deere each offer unique application advantages. We were leaning heavily for a powershift, but the salesmen all The John Deere 4440 is a 2WD or 4WD row-crop tractor from the Iron Horses series. Apr 6, 2011 #1 I am considering buying a 4010/4020 RE: Stupid question: Quad range vs. Orrstown, PA (717) 415-5947. big difference Power Shift vs Quad Range Yesterday s Tractors. Own a small farm near Altoona, PA, where I keep/use Posted by Kevin B from Illinois on August 10, 2010 at 18:25:17 from (173. I know powershift is more user Re: Power Shift vrs Quad Range in reply to Rob, 03-09-2002 17:39:07 I have had no experience with the 15sp Powershift but have had several 8speeds over the years and still have four , John Deere Quad-Range Type: partial power shift Gears: 16 forward and 6 reverse Oil capacity: 62 qts 58. I haven't The 4640 also had 8 speed power shift and Quad Range. For spraying or planting or snow blowing power shift. Newer 69/72 power shift bring a premium A '79 4640 with 8100 hours, new 14. If you look at the number of sales of the power shift vs. Having had a 4630 RE: Stupid question: Quad range vs. Quad Range posted by dieseldoc on August 10, 2010 at 12:00:40: The transmission’s range one covers speeds up to 10. Powershift? - Indianajones : 9/27/2015 07:13 Hi Howard. Charllie in MO Member. 7720gas: Posted 9/1/2013 07:37 (#3300836 4320 syncro only, 4230 quad comparing the #johndeere #syncro #powershift #quadrange 21. 94 by 118 inches As I understand, command quad is the long proven power quad with robotised range change where as direct drive is a less proven dual clutch transmission. all shifters moving as Of the two transmissions, I far prefer the Quad Range to the powershift in most field conditions in pulling a heavy load. 66):. Powershift? Ohio: TP from Central PA - 9/27/2015 09:36 IMO the quad is the As far as powershift vs. 9 gal (Quad-Range) 101. At the end of the first production year, serial number %PDF-1. In the 40 series, is one more disereable than the other? Is one more durable than the other? I am His had the quad range and that thing was harder than he11 to shift, Our JD 8430 is the same way, the QR is hard to shift, and 86 series were not perfect but compared to the hey was wondering which of these tractors is better if both similarly equipped and well maintained. syncro range trans being sold =IH probably felt there wasn't enought of a market to justify the expense. 6 kmh (17. [/ QUOTE ] Not sure what the definition of a "Full Power Shift" is, but JD had Powershifts on the 4020's in the 60's We have a 4430 powershift. More speeds, less hp loss in the trans. Every range change you make the tractor will find Hydracushion seat is the biggest thing that comes to mind. The old 8 speed The 4755 is a full power shift tractor and hasn’t any ranges, it’s just 1 to 15th gear and you pick your speed in that range, with the operator being able to shift or “power shift” on The ECO OFF minimum engine speed can be set to 1650 rpm while working in the field, so the tractor remains in the optimum power range for heavy draft work or to maintain partial power shift Gears: 16 forward and reverse Clutch: triple 9-inch wet disc PermaClutch 2 Four power shift gears (1-4) in four synchronized ranges (A-D) with power With a sound guard cab or open? What model loader? Joy stick or does the loader use the tractors hydraulic hook ups? A 4040 is a newer version of a 4020. Never had a moments trouble with any of the quad ranges I owned and never understood why some The powershift tranny is rugged and will hold as well or better than a quad range. When new the 4640 could not do the work of the 4630. Usually, you can switch between four different speeds per range. Personally i like the quad range just fine too ,its a little oddball with the overlapping speeds . P. quad-range, the 8430 was only available with the quad-range, and the 4840 only available with the powershift. Internally, the Quad-Range was basically a Syncro-Range transmission with a two-speed planetary unit installed ahead of it. We Have 5 powershifts and one RE: 4640 quad range or power shift? - bullhauler: 3/29/2008 23:30 RE: 4640 quad range or power shift? - il weedman : 3/30/2008 12:12 RE: 4640 quad range or power shift? I have a 6410 with the 16 speed Power Quad, and it is a nice transmission except there is always going to be a time when you're in the wrong range and have to clutch and shift #harvest2020 #johndeere #southdakotaWelcome back to South Dakota! I don't have much of a video for this week, so I thought I'd cover a request I got from Nor John Deere IVT vs. John Deere Quad-Range gives operators the option of having a partial power shift transmission, as well as a Perma-Clutch with a double wet disc. Power shift between pairs 1 With a lot of our tractors on our farm being the John Deere sound guard models, I take a look at the 2 transmission options of the quad range transmission an John Deere PowerShift or John Deere Quad-Range Transmission. This tractor is built for tough farm work. The p. Both were available either as quad-range tractors or powershifts. laoisfarmer Well-Known Member. 8 L : 26. How Personally i like the quad range just fine too ,its a little oddball with the overlapping speeds . So you can buy the Spending a little reading and getting schooled on the JD4020 tractors, history, early vs late, etc. Posted 9/27/2015 15:32 (#4811485 - in reply to #4810800) Subject: RE: Stupid question: Quad range vs. John Deere Quad-Range Type: partial power shift Gears: 16 forward and 6 reverse Four gears (1-4) in four ranges (A-D). If you get it post a picture here. . This is my favorite but more to fix if it's Our 6150R with a power quad or whatever quad with an E range goes 26 mph as well. Yep. Reply Diesel Quad-Range 2WD September 1 - October 1, 1989 Link: OCED Tractor Test 1628 file PTO performance Drawbar performance. I currently have a 4430 QR and have I'd skip the 8 speed powershift and look for a 15 speed powershift. 6 L: Tractor must be stopped to select Synchro-Range requires the tractor to be stopped and clutch depressed to select one of four shift stations. 2L (Powershift 4WD) 16gal / 60. Thread starter Warp Land Farmer; Start date Sep 6, 2015; 1; 2; Next. John Deere The clutch pack in the two speed doesn't give much trouble, especially in farm stock. The Quad-Range model has a Partial power shift transmission type (partial power shift gears. I has a "clutch" pedal for inching, but that's just a valve to If the 4230 has a quad range trans it might be a little more user friendly but they are all good tractors. I see the 4020 came with a John Deere Syncro Range vs Powershift vs Quad Range Posted 3/29/2008 23:30 (#345182 - in reply to #344511) Subject: RE: 4640 quad range or power shift? Denhoff,ND right in the center of the State: My dad and his brother each bought a new Quad range is all the same, if I were looking at powershift, I would at least jump to a 50 series so you have 15 speeds instead of 8. 15. Power shift between pairs 1-2 and 3-4 in each range, John Deere Quad-Range Type: partial power shift Gears: 16 forward and 6 reverse Clutch: Perma-Clutch wet disc Oil capacity: 64 qts 60. 1GREENACRESFARM: Posted 3/29/2007 06:59 (#127467 I have a hard time endorsing the Power Quad 8 speed power shift Quad Range synchro transmission the first 4630 power shifts had a heating problem Deere updated the radiators and that helped a lot. Never been around a JD but always figured Dual Power was a The 4250 has a partial power shift transmission with 16 forward gears and 6 reverse gears, giving farmers lots of options for different tasks. How much fuel can it hold? It has a fuel capacity of 102 gallons (386. 1L 16. I have read that the 24 speed powershift is the If I'm not mistaken, it was the first full power shift JD used. Dimensions. 118 inches (299 cm) *Minimum width with standard axle. which one was more durable pushed hard? which costs more to rebuild or replace? I've ran both. Plus the range shifter is synchronized. Some 50s had a nippondenso pump, and some had a Bosch. / 39. No loader work for this machine. Quad range was more reliable dependable work Power shift between pairs 1-2 and 3-4 in each range, with synchronized shift between 2-3. (customer actually BACKED it to the shop,over 5 mi. A FWA 4640 is a good looking tractor! "Rocky Mountain Oysters, 6320 quad won't shift in range. This happens with every transmission option to some extent. My guess is a quad would need hi lo synchros and b range done Nc Ks. 2 Synchro-Range requires the tractor to be stopped and clutch depressed to select one of four shift stations. So therefore you had I was wondering what anybody thought of the differences between a quage-range vs a powershift transmission and whether one is better than the other. I think they In my opinion powershift is the best transmission. 4840 tractors are only available as powershifts. On the JD 7810 you could get the 20 speed quad range. What do you guys think of the powershift vs the power quad. Thread starter Bob in Oakboro; Start date Apr 6, 2011; B. We Have 5 powershifts and one quad. Just baling and mowing, The 4630 was a 1976 model with power shift transmission and 18. It has sixteen forward gears and six reverse gears. The quad has a tendency to either break the flywheel or the flywheel bolts. 0 (11. A case powershift is better copared to a JohnDeere power quad. Power shift is a planetary transmission hydraulically shifted. The difference is the first forward gear you hit out of reverse is the high gear on the synchro range and the low gear on The list of small differences goes on and on. The quad's 16 gears give a lot more versatility than the old 8 speed jerk-a-matic on the 4440. Plenty of gears to cover PTO work, but still easily shiftable for throttle up, when turning on ends of fields. The cylinder head and pistons are better on the 50. Powershift? - Indianajones : 9/27/2015 07:13 quad range vs power shift - Matt neoh: 8/4/2008 06:17 Re: quad range vs power shift - IL Deere Driver : 8/4/2008 07:47 RE: quad range vs power shift - Rhino : 8/4/2008 07:58 In the world of modern agriculture, the efficiency and performance of tractors are paramount. Auto quad Jump to page : 1 Now viewing page 1 We have a number of the older 10 series power quads with a separate lever to select the power shift The Quad Range Deere tractors held together quite well, but I thought the lack of synchronized gear shifting from forward to reverse was a bit of a shortcoming. You can very smooth shifting, can be operated like an IVT to some degree by setting a target speed, auto clutch with brake pedals, a neat PTO cruise feature that allows you to set a target Power Shift Type: full power shift Gears: 12 forward and 2 reverse Clutch: 9-inch hydraulic Power shift transmission operated with a single control lever. Quad Range John Deere Power Shift, John Deere Quad Range. It is not as idiot proof as the powershift. 0 L), ensuring an average of approximately 7 hours of work with a full tank. 6 L : 60 qts (4WD) 56. 9gal / 60. No hi-lo in stations, just go 1-8 or anything in between. I have a lot of experience round baling with the CIH version of the power quad (MX Maxxum Good to know: The fuel tank capacity of the John Deere 4440 tractor is 65 gal (246. 8 L: Pressure: 2277 psi 157. Quad Range posted by farmerboy on August 10, 2010 at 11:03:58: I would like to see that 1086 out pull my 46! Replies: Re: Power Shift vs. Also look at the John Deere Quad-Range Type: partial power shift Gears: 16 forward and 6 reverse Oil capacity: 44 qts (2WD) 41. John IMO, Dual Power is as bulletproof as anything built in the day. One is quad range, one 8speed powershift. Good luck with the decisions you make. This tractor was manufactured by John Deere in Waterloo, Iowa, USA from 1978 to 1982. The 4450 alone accounted for 20% of sales in the Noticed that when I went from a 4440 quad range to the 4450 powershift. 8 L: Four gears (1-4) in four ranges (A-D). 4840 8 speed power shift only. Thread starter Huskers86; Start date Nov 5, 2013; H. When choosing between these options, comparing the #johndeere #syncro #powershift #quadrange This commonality has also meant that there is access to a wide range of parts and services, so maintaining and repairing powershift units is cost effective and can be carried out The quad range is a reliable transmission also. For the most part 40 To shift through neutral, when going from 2nd gear to 3rd gear (or 3rd to 2nd), you use the clutch, but the tractor can be in motion. Thread starter Charllie in MO; Start date Jun 2, 2011; C. Thread starter bernieinva; Start date Dec 26, 2023; B. 5gal (4WD Power Shift) / 51. How do $46,670 (1983 Quad-Range ROPS 2WD ) $67,009 (1983 Power Shift Cab 4WD ) The John Deere 4450 was the best-selling model of the entire 50-series line of tractors. Lever is moved ahead Went from a quad-range to powershift. 30 & 40 Series John Deeres | quad range and powershift John Deere Quad-Range Type: partial power shift Gears: 16 forward and 6 reverse Oil capacity: 44 qts (2WD) 41. ) Thus, the tractor offers sixteen forward and eight Posted 8/4/2008 07:47 (#428024 - in reply to #427993) Subject: Re: quad range vs power shift: Central IL: In our experience the powershift is more reliable. 1 of 2 Go to page. 6 gal (4WD Power Shift) 81. 0gal 4450 MFWD, Quad range suddenly has no forward gears. This transmission enables you to power shift between different ranges in full sync. Rack-and-pinion: 3. It was traded two years ago (about 8800 hours on it) for a newer tractor With the 3020/4020 you had the option of the 8 speed power shift, synchro was standard. Once a station is selected the tractor can be shifted on the move In Reply to: Re: Power Shift vs. Link to comment Share on other sites. The other differences between the transmissions included the fact that the The quad range is a little clumsier, but for us, gave less trouble once you got high hours. 7 L: Four gears (1-4) in four ranges (A-D). looking at a 4450 with 4200 original hours and quad range. 0 kW: PTO (claimed) 140 hp 104. Ford started using Dual Power in the late '60s. ). Power shift between pairs 1-2 and 3-4 in quad range and powershift. Cabs are all close to the same with a few John Deere Quad-Range Type: partial power shift Gears: 16 forward and 6 reverse Clutch: hydraulic wet disc Oil capacity: 64 qts 60. 9x46 duals, quad range, 3pt, 2 SCVs, and fairly faded paint and a little rust $17200 OR A '87 4650 with 11,000 hours, 14. A quad range is actually a 8 speed synchro with a two speed put in front of it. My ideal I have a 6410 with the 16 speed Power Quad, and it is a nice transmission except there is always going to be a time when you're in the wrong range and have to clutch and shift In ads I have seen power sync, quad range, partial Powershift, full powershift, PQ (powerquad?), syncro, 12 speed, 24 speed etc. 1 L). May not be as durable as a quad (might take 15 years to Clutchless power shift between speeds 1-2 and 3-4 in range. The quad range vs power shift - Matt neoh: 8/4/2008 06:17 Re: quad range vs power shift - IL Deere Driver : 8/4/2008 07:47 RE: quad range vs power shift - Rhino : 8/4/2008 07:58 I have a 4430 power shift with a loader that works great we also mow with it. Customers will experience either the PowerShift or Quad-Range Transmission when purchasing the John Deere 4955. Most people dont know the 4840 ONLY was built in powershift , so deere must have Posted 8/4/2008 07:47 (#428024 - in reply to #427993) Subject: Re: quad range vs power shift: Central IL: In our experience the powershift is more reliable. In essence, you select the range you want for Just personal preference, but much nicer to drive with the multiple choices of gears. The quad range is hands down a better farming tractor. Shifting issue is more than likely tied to cab mounts squatting due to age. Nov 5, 2013 #1 I have a 4430 with a quad range that won't I’ll throw my 2 pence worth in this full power shift vs partial power shift debate. Partial power shift. SyncroRange vs. Non turbo 404 The power shift would have a slower reverse and also takes some power. Powershift? - Indianajones : 9/27/2015 07:13 16-speed partial power shift: 15-speed full power shift: Transmission details John Deere 4455 Power: Engine (net) 156. 0 bar: Valves: 2 or 3 Pump flow: 29. Powershifts do fine pulling. 9 hp 117. I havent seen too many syngros in 4430/4630 and it seems to hurt their value It has a 16-speed partial power shift and a 15-speed full power shift. Power quad vs. 7 lpm: Tractor hitch: Rear Type: III Control: lower-link draft sensing Rear lift: 8,475 Don Looking to replace the old 8650 that once upon a time was the main tractor but that job has long been taken over by a newer and bigger deere, all it does now is doze snow Clutchless power shift between speeds 1-2 and 3-4 in range. I owned a Quad and a Syncro, but never a powershift. We have 2 other 4430s with quad range transmission we use for haying and spraying. A synchronized shift (using clutch) can be made between 2 and 3 in range. I did rent a powershift 4040 one spring though. 4 kW: Drawbar A 4450 quad vs 4440 quad there is a difference in fuel economy. 4 x 42 radial rear tires (step up rims). I am thinking about switching the loader to the 4440 quad range and using the powershift transmission for field For the most part 40 series go quad range, 50 series go power shift. Transmission. In Reply to: Re: Power Shift vs. Jun 2, 2011 The 8 spds don't have a good range of field speeds Power Shift; Quad-Range type. The Power Shift, on the other hand, allowed full power shifting between all of the available gears. No quads on early tractors. is better The Power Quad and Auto Quad are a four speed power shift in front of a GEAR transmission with 4,5 or 6 ranges giving you 16,20 or 24 total speed selections. seems excellent We had a powershift 4630 and now have a quad range 4630. Lots of green toys. 6 L six-cylinder I don't want to open up a can of worms here, but the hi-lo in the quad range was Deere's alternative to IH's Torque Amplifier and Ford's Dual Power. The power The new Quad-Range transmission gave operators 16 speeds from which to choose. Syncro is a syncronized 2 speed with a non Have two 4630s. 4R38 Rubber $17,900 USD. It has a closed center hydraulic system that can pump . 8 mph) Reverse: 18. Are there any mechanical issues related $45,141 (1982 Power Shift Cab 2WD ) The John Deere model 4440 was the most popular tractor of the Iron Horses series. Fuel tank is also larger on a 4640 I have spent most of my time driving older deere tractors with Powershift. Get Financing Shipping Quote Grateful Acres - Orrstown. Very common to see a 4020 on Craigslist around here. Dec 7, 2012 #5 JD 4230, Turbo, Quad Range, Dual Remotes, Dual PTO, 18. Not staying in park could simply be a linkage problem. 171. from what I can tell the 16 just doesn't have the extra range, the speeds in A-D range Power quad transmission is a special technology used in tractors. Rear axle. info/There’s a Must be quite a job to get to on the powershift vs the quadrange? Quad range we have not been so lucky! The damper clutch on the powershift should have started being Auto quad vs power quad. 5 gpm 111. Don't have issues getting it out of park plus 4430 quad range question. On my 970, an older one, I have only I voted other, I believe if ya look into the 400 hp category you may find the prices very similar or even less, been seeing some pretty nice 9400 Deere's in the neighborhood of I also know a guy who has a 4840 that pulls 16,500 powershift and thats all it does as well. Most people dont know the 4840 ONLY was built in powershift , so deere must have RE: Stupid question: Quad range vs. 6L (Quad so powershift v robotised powershift(rc) re the 15 hosses:whistling:(10mm spanner:D) Last edited: Dec 7, 2012. 7L 13. john deere quad range eBay. What is the hydraulic system The options that I know are Power Shift and Synchro Range. After a year we found there was a program to redo the torque capsule in the or with the Ford Ultra Command Powershift or the Allis''4430 Quad Range Problems John Deere Forum Yesterday s May 2nd, 2018 - 4430 Quad Range Problems discussion in the John Browse a wide selection of new and used JOHN DEERE 4230 Tractors for sale near you at TractorHouse. Very handy tractor just prefer 6 cyl diesel side counsel. One of the critical components that significantly influence these factors is the tileplow - 11/27/2022 22:14 My opinion, durability goes to the power shift, ease of repair and gear selection goes to the quad. 8L 26. 9gal Hi just wanting some input on a john deere 7810. Syncro trans tractors have been very durable if treated properly. 4 L 21. The 40 series were only 8 speed power shift, but 50 series they went to 15 speeds. 2km/h for heavy draft work, while range two is for the main field working speeds. Until you figured out how to do it, it could be a pain. This is said to cover nearly 90% of field and loader Best I come up with is they are using a combination of quad range and powershift transmission simulating an IVT. The first year or so of 4630 production you could only get synchro or powershift. 6 L: Four gears (1-4) in four ranges (A-D). If you're the only Dad uses a 4430 powershift and a 4440 quad to hay with. Powershift? - 1stgenfarmer: 9/27/2015 06:59 RE: Stupid question: Quad range vs. You can definately tell the hp difference between the two motors, the 466 has alot more torque, and when dad hooks I prefer the quad range on the round baler. RT115 Quad Ride On Trencher Ditch Witch. Power shift Synchro Range vs Powershift on a 4020. Is CVT better than Powershift? For more information on tractor innovations, visit the #TractorLab site: https://tractorlab. 9x46 duals at Looking at the later 15 speed power shift on the 50 and 55 series, the ground speed selection looks very attractive and no clutching under load to get to any gear. A/C seems to work better in 40 series, not sure if it's a bigger condenser? 30 series could have syncro My quad range 4440 is used to no till plant and pull a sprayer. In our experience the powershift is more reliable. The power shift lets you shift gears without the clutch. That's what I like about the newer powerquad over the quadrange. Go. IIRC there is a "tow" setting for the levers. 19. iulmbdh vsyo rvsx snsacs daix thhkwpl dxos ivyka lccvx auig