38 special powder loads. 38 special (see my personal load above).
38 special powder loads Not exactly Cowboy material, but it would certainly have different outcomes if I ran Black Powder through it. No temp problems, no case position sensitivity found with some of the others. Powders include Hodgdon, IMR, Alliant, Vihtavuori, Accurate, Vectan With NEVER EXCEED LOADS maintain Minimum Over All Length or longer. 38 Special - Part 2 (Lee Precision Data) Warning! Notes: With NEVER EXCEED LOADS maintain Minimum Over All Length or longer. Couple years back I tested 10 different bullets and 5 powders in a snubnosed 38spl p+ loads. 0 - 2013) reloading data with 174 loads. BE-86: Select A Caliber or Gauge Below To View Recipes. 38 special cowboy loads get 3. You might want to try it sometime to surprise your friends on The author tops his . 38 Special (Western Powders Reloading Guide - Edition 5. LOAD DENSITY TYPE F. He found that 231, Green Dot and Unique could give good results. August 21, 2014, 07:39 PM #5: ligonierbill. Open menu Open navigation Go to Reddit Home. 75gr (average of metered loads) under several A) Spent 38 Special brass, particularly Federal, CBC and RP. 9mm Luger. 5 to 4. View Profile For . For the past year, I've been shooting 3. 5 grains of black powder and 158-grain I am not debating that the bullets i am using may be a little hard for std 38 special loads. 5 or 11. Powders include Hodgdon Powder: Charge: Velocity (FPS) 110: Hornady XTP: Hodgdon: CFE Pistol: Subscribe: Made that call to Hodgdon about Trail Boss powder and basically what they told me is that you can not put too much trail Boss powder in a straight wall case such as the . I know tight group is a good replacement for my pistol powder but I am not interested in using my Tightgroup for pistol as it is way more dense than either Titewad or my current Red Dot. 38 Special load when using the . Thank you in advance! Mar 16, 2023 #2 menhadenman Senior Member. 357 Magnum and 9mm Luger. 38 Special loads involves a Lee 130-grain radiused flat nosed slug over a mere 3. You will then discover why I do not particularly care for Universal with light or even standard loads in the 38 Special case, nor any other relatively long straightwall case run at pressure levels comparable to the 38 Special. 0 grains of Bullseye powder, sparked by a standard small pistol primer. 8 grains of bullseye with a taper crimp. 38 Special is W231/HP-38. I have yet to use blue dot, I know thats what you were asking info for but, I have yet to load it for 38. 7 grains of Bullseye. 38 Special target loads. It is a rimmed, centerfire cartridge that is commonly used for self-defense, target shooting, and law enforcement applications. 38 Special case. I loaded 3. 08'. Using bullets from You find . AA#5 is a fine powder for 38 Special loads near max velocities. i dont have a chrony so i rely on info i obtain that shows a specific load recipe and the velocity it achieves. I was told this was strong enough for smokeless powder, but I would like to shoot black in it for the smoke. 38 Special - Part 1 (Lee Precision Data) reloading data with 240 loads. cast bullet in 38 Special. 5" and one Printed from Shooter's Reference on 12/22/2024: https://www. 7 grains of Bullseye powder, and my cast H&G #527 mould bullets with a quality control criteria of +/- 1 grain -- I used any brass I could scrounge, take out of trash buckets at range, or even Find load data for Accurate 4100 propellant by clicking the button "Loads for this Powder". 38 Special loads. 7"; trim: 1. Bristoe #15331802 10/21/20. 38 Special with soft hp boolits Or am I in for just a lot of unburnt residue? Is anyone using H4227 in 38 Special with cast boolits? H4227 is my favorite for accurate loads in 44 mag with cast boolits, but I've not tried it in 38 Special. 7 MAX. As for the 38 long colt the 1908 Sears Roebuck catalog lists black powder loads with 19 grains of black powder and a 150 grain lead round nose. 38 special, especially not when +P loadings are considered. (and maybe a few other rifle cartridges). 10 gauge. 357 Mag load, use . 38 Special started off life as a black powder load (even though it was designed after smokeless powder had gained acceptance), that the I have been on a quest for a good "+P" . 5. Powder wise, once over 165 Grain Bullet in . 07 mm) and a case length of 1. Magnum. Join Date: May 20, 2007. An oldie, but sort of a goodie Trail Boss Powder & Chronographed With the RCBS 38-148-WC 2. In my OCD Bullseye shooting years I loaded a zillion (give or take a very few) . 357 also. Alliant Powder Reload Recipes. 38 Special in 2021. 10mm Auto. I guess I should have said "up and down a few TENTHS of a grain". I felt it was a waste of an expensive bullet and a lot of powder. Bullseye provides very low density loadings in the . The quote from S&W Historian Jinks cements several very important things in place -- that the . Shooting my Blue Dot/Special loads in my 3" 38 and my 4" 357 these loads were like shooting a sandblaster Look for loads in the manuals with either powder name. I have a plethora of Herco. 38 Special is a popular revolver cartridge that was first introduced in 1898 by Smith & Wesson. 38 special I really like about 4 grains of unique driving a 158 grain hardcast. 6 grains HS-6 and there was unburned powder on the shooting table afterwards. Anyone have any other load data for this caliber, powder and bullet combinaton? Thx. I would like a round with respect able power. 6 MAX. 38 special everyday loads for range work get 4. 38 Special with WSF? I'm thinking a 10% reduction off the starting load should do the trick. I don't need anything too hot just a good ole standard pressure 38 load. However, my revolver is a K-Frame S&W 10-5. 38 Special wadcutters. I am wondering if I could use one of the many black-powder substitutes in this gun? I have a few cans of Triple7, one each in 2F and One of my old manuals shows the lead 158 38 special load at 1156fps with Alliant 2400 powder. Alliant Powder lists it as "Secondary Uses: Handgun loads", and they do list . Small Pistol Primer. 32 Auto. YMMV Printed from Shooter's Reference on 12/22/2024: https://www. 28 gauge. 25, 1988 Colt Delta Elite, good 38 Special powder choice Recommend acquiring Redding Profile Crimp Die. January 11, 2019, 03:35 PM #5: KASarich. 38 Special provides detailed reloading information including bullet types, powder specifications, and primer recommendations. POWDER MUZZLE VEL. 5 grains to 14. 231 and similar burn-rate powders are about the slowest, really clean powders to use in the . I have a lot of Sport Pistol Loaded with 21 grains of black powder, the . Also a 158 grain bullet with 4. 38 Special including technical specifications, suitable bullets, popular powders, and info charts. 38 special +P load. Had some problems with Unique tying up the gun with unburned powder particles a while ago, but got past that tonight. For some reason I wasn't getting a complete Apparently, the Speer load manual #8 has some very warm . I started doing so with a lee classic loader and a rubber mallet. 45ACP. 38 Special? I use a lot of 2400 in my 357 mags but I was wondering if it is worth the effort to work up loads ( upper end but non P+) for a . 05-02-2015, 12:26 AM #18. 4 MAX. The bullseye is so accurate and consistent, I just cant really seem to get away from using it. 38 Special, but pulling down their 75-grain +P in . With the bevel base wadcutters I have upped the powder charge a bit, Those look like . 38 Special? All I can find on the AA website is the newer PDF with a whole lot less loads than used to be there. 08-06-2009, 12:35 AM #2. I looked through a few just now; for cast WC . I love that powder in a handgun. Shooter's Reference Load Data for . and that being for a +P level load. com/reloadingdata/38-special/ . But I soon bought a pound of Bullseye. Have not shot them yet. r/reloading A chip A close button. For me, a 158-160 grain bullet is very accurate with 4. I have probably loaded more rounds with W-231 / HP-38 than any other powder. While I have only touched the very tip of the . Trail Boss is still my powder for 38-40, 44-40, and 32-20 I see where 4227 is mostly utilized for magnum loads. 8 grains of powder to make 876 FPS. Problem is her arthritis is killing her and as much as she wants to part take in this endeavor she can not with regular 38 special loads. Using bullets from Hornady HP/XTP, Intercast LSWC, Hornady FP/XTP, Rainier FP, Speer HP, LSWC, Speer JHP, Sako LWC, Gunhill FNCM, LSWC/HP, Intercast LFN. You can play with the charge weights but i have a strong feeling you will come right back to that load. I was thinking of using 125 cast bullets with bullseye win 231 trail boss etc. I'm looking for load data for standard pressure 38 Special loadings, preferably with bullets in the 130gr range using Unique powder. 0 grains maximum of Unique with a 125 grain RNFP at 1075 fps. 38 Special (6" barrel) that I plan on reloading for, with cast bullets. In 38 special loadings it's going to leave a LOT of unburned powder. Reloading The . Won't be real clean (like Clays), but it works well. I tried that load after reading 38 Special target loads in the old NRA Handloading Guide. It was probably a load worked up with slower-than-normal-for-38 Special powder and a magnum primer and an extra hard crimp to get the powder burning. What kind of charges/boolits would be best for Black Powder . 38 Special (Using Hornady Bullets) reloading data with 353 loads. Todays Alliant recipes are 3. Original . 44 Special, and 45 ACP. There is limited load data for . 38 Special using hard cast round nose and semi wadcutter bullets in the 158-160 grain range. That load is my favorite . 5 gr. NOw I load WST as often as Bullseye. the Carbide Factory Crimp Die – no more worrying about bullet slippage for me! With the Universal Shell Holder, Powder Dipper, and Instructions/Load Data included, this set has everything you need to start reloading like So what I'm wondering is this: Is it doable to make a reduced charge load for the . Otherwise most shooters using a 3"-4" stock revolver in 38 special, would never make a 125 pf. KNOWLEDGE CENTER 1 8 9 5 G U N N E R. Bump. 38 Special, 158 gr cast bullet a starting load of 7. I just went to my range a couple of hours ago and shot a few rounds from my 38 Special S&W Model 10 Victory. Just a few that will work in the 38 special are Alliant bullseye, IMR 700x, Hodgdonhp38, win 231, Vit 310, Vit 320, and Alliant unique. LSWC (Oregon Trail Laser Cast), 3. We use 3. 7 grns velocity at 850fps I always used it for 45 auto but used it for target loads under 148 HBWC 38 spl loads in the past. 36") and load them warm for a . I'm new to this board and to reloading in general. 0 - 2013) reloading data with 124 loads. This being my first black powder cartridge load (I have no other experience with black powder, save for model rocketry), I had no idea what to A 38 special load is a low pressure round and throwing powder in the case that doesn't burn well under low pressures is going to be "dirtier" than other powders that burn completely (quicker powders) at low pressures. Then seating and crimping are done in batches, I never load powder in batches, one at a The standard load for all the years I shot PPC matches was 2. 0 grains of Hodgdon’s Powder Pistol powder. 0 * 828 5. 38 Special, 38-40 and 45 Colt. I was using several different powder weights but when I got to 3. 999 5. Just ordered lee carbide dies for . I am liking TrailBoss for all of my Cowboy Loads. Hodgdon’s Clays, 📝 Reloading Data for . Looking for your favorite powders/loads for a 38 Special w Hornady 125grain XTP. Senior Member . 32 H&R Magnum. Anyway, I just put together 10 . 910 6. i use a Lee mold 150 round nose with 4 grains of bullseye crimped into the crimp groove of the bullet. No matter where you look, the first mention in classic loads for the . This high energy powder provides economy in loading. WST is a good powder for a very specialized load. The loads in the above manual seem to be consistant with what you found in the Lee manual. 45 ACP and . With that load, from a Ransom Rest, my S&W K-38 put 10 shots into 1 7/8" at 50 yards, but I was using swaged HBWC bullets from Ron Gromak, who is no longer in business. It was accurate and burned clean. 2 grains of 231. 7 * 846 CFE Pistol 5. Does anyone load pistols with Titewad powder specifically. Using bullets from Hornady HP/XTP, Intercast LSWC, Hornady FP/XTP, Rainier FP, Speer HP, Winchester’s 231 or WSL are also good powders for the . 38 special. Most of us use . com/reloadingdata/38-special/ I bought a couple pounds of clays a few months ago. Recipe. As far as the difference in height of the powder column, I never tried loading 38 Special with Black Powder, however I have loaded 44-40 (44 WCF) 44 Russian, 45 S&W and 45 Colt with black powder, and NEVER had a problem getting a full original charge and a small "cookie" of lube inside the case and make proper over all length with the proper weight bullet. I'd suggest you use a faster powder for your light loads. 4 grains for a 158 grain . containers. Now I do handload and I have brass dies bullets all sorts of powder etc. Using bullets from Hornady XTP, Meister Cast LRNFP, Hornady Cowboy, Speer JHP, Hornady LHBWC, Meister Cast LSWC. It seems to be just about equal to Unique in the 38 special, albeit it is supposedly closer to WW Autocomp or HS-6 in burn rate. 357 Magnum chambering is the most popular chambering in modern replica single-action revolvers. Looking to load a few (100) 38 Special +P+. 38 Special loads, Mike used these two revolvers: the S&W Model 15 Combat Masterpiece (left) and the S&W Model 23 Smith & Wesson’s first . 38 is rated as having 145- to 150-grain bullets over 14 or 15 grains of black powder. 44 Rem. I have some Longshot powder and have found some +P loads. If not tell me what powder I should buy, preferably a good all around 38 powder. My Lyman 49th Edition however does show Blue Dot loads for . I need a good working load for trailboss powder in 38 special. I will be using a 125 gr Hornady 125 grain XTP. Like . I have never had the gun I've used a lot of jacketed bullets in . Target Loads. Winchester 231 is between Bullseye and Unique for the . All the Best, D. Posts: 2,593 Speer 158 SWCHP over 5 Or, you can safely add 1. Been handloading for many years for rifles, but new to the pistol handloads. 75"; barrel: 7. So are you surprised you're having a hard time making pf with your reloads? Which is why in IDPA Stock Revolver division, they have a min 105PF requirement. 38 Special load bar none. If you can find unique powder. 7 grains = 517 fps 3. BlueDot is really for medium to high pressure loadings. 5 - 2011) reloading data with 70 loads. I am wanting to load more for accuracy than ultimate power. ??? I would guess that much of it won't burn, but it leaves the barrel almost lead-free Years ago I worked with 700x in both . Its a nice gentle J frame load that feels softer than my usual 4. 8 grains for a . I've used it in 9mm, 40 S&W, 10 mm, 41 mag, 38 spl, 45 acp, and 45 long colt. Load is 158gr. 38 Special load. I settled on Win 231 and my next buy will be TiteGroup as it measures well and is clean burning and has a great reputation for accuracy. Accuracy testing performed from a benchrest at 25 yards. 38 Special Target Loads Handloading, Reloading, and Bullet Casting : The Firing Line Forums > The Skunkworks > Powder puff load. View Profile View Forum Posts Boolit Master Join Date Jul 2014 Posts 686. Trail Boss is ideal for this purpose in a cavernous case like the 38 special. I have an old Lyman (1970 vintage) reloading manual that lists for a . 155 inches (29. what i am having a problem with is data from the powder manufacterer that is not accurate. 38 S&W Special factory loads contained 21. shootersreference. I've found some murmurs online about hot but still standard loads under a 158gr hat that's close to what I want, but I'd prefer the 130gr bullet. 0 grains behind a 148 gr. A good full power load for . Will be using in a S & W 27. 357 Magnum. I have used the full charge wadcutter A little more case volume requires a little more powder (as all the other members on this thread have pointed out) 07-19-2019, 11:59 AM #11. I guess most people are asking how to get more power out of a . We have a supply of different types of powder that can be used in the 38 specials. 38 Special for eons. However, some state that back in those days the testers might have been rolling more than just loads, as they tested out the ammo, as they worked. 5 4. 38 special case, which can lead to ignition problems. If any of you have any pet loads you would care to share, I would sure appreciate it. (MODERN RELOADING Second Edition - Richard Lee) Be Alert: Publisher cannot be responsible for errors in published load data. Lyman shows regular loads from 3. 3. 45 Auto. I finished the day by shooting 3 consecutive 3 inch, 12 shot groups at 20 yards offhand. 38 Special, . Using bullets from Jacketed , Jacketed, XTP, Lead, Copper Plated. 145"; primer: Winchester SP; do not exceed loads listed Be Alert: Publisher cannot be responsible for errors in published load data. The same load works the same wonders in the . 45 loads, not 38 special loads!!! james r chapman Admin Posts: 6394 Join date: 2012-01-31 Age: 75 Location: HELL, Michigan. I do load middle of the chart to upper on the TrailBoss powder. While Power Pistol has significant muzzle flash at standard 38 Special pressures, I have noticed significantly reduced muzzle flash at +P pressure using 158gr LSWC-HP-GC . 0 grains of 2400 behind 358429 has been my standard 38 special load. Unfortunately, they do not list any pressures with their data. Member . Through the heyday of bullseye shooting over the various match courses of fire, there was probably a Mount Rushmore-sized mountain of powder loaded and combusted 2. Bullseye is the best powder I have found for 38 special. I just took some 38 specials loaded with WST powder and Lyman 358432 wadcutters to the range and had the best results I have had to date. Just a question for those that may know: Are there good usable loads for cast boolits (150-158gr) range using 2400 powder in a . Don't load 38's anymore, wish I could be more help. country gent. If you have 357 cases just load mid-range loads with it. 7 with a 155LSWC at up to 885 fps, and a +P load of 5. 12 gauge. 5 MAX. 16 gauge. The reason I say currently is because of the availability of powders. 45 Colt. Using bullets from Hornady XTP, Meister Cast LRNFP, Hornady Cowboy, Speer JHP, Hornady LHBWC, Meister Load data for caliber . 32 S&W Long (Cowboy Action) 38 Special (Cowboy Action) 38-40 Win. 38 Special I'd use 158 grain lead semi-wadcutters and 2400 over any other powder choice. , minus . 38. Powders include Vihtavuori For chronographing . 357 Magnum. 38 Special with both the Military and Police . 38 isn’t too crazy to load. Hard to find a . I did find some loading data in an old manual that suggests around 5 (max) grains would be a good load. Load data is intended for use only by competent persons experienced in the proper and safe practice of The Alliant reloading data site does no show Blue Dot as a recommended powder for . 38 Special - Load Data - 1895Gunner. 8 gr. I take advantage of that; crimp the bullet in the middle using . 357 inches (9. and 8 lb. 38 Special loads for his GP100 - a very strong revolver. 357 Sig. I am hoping to get velocities in the 750-800 fps range, but no more. 38 S&W cal. With powder being very difficult to find I am left to using powder I already have. 44 Mag. If you want a . I would not use 'Hard Cast' in anything oither than maybe, some Rifle Loads. 4 gr. 690 fps hi=736 lo=647 ES=89 (powder up and down) (Cowboy loads – shot in 7 1/2″ bbl. 2 913 6. Other good powders for standard . as in 1100 fps out a 2 inch barrel warm. Winchester’s 231 or WSL are also good powders for the . 38 special case with 13 grains of Pyrodex RS powder (FFG equivalent, or so it says on the bottle), underneath a 190 grain Ranch Dog tumble lubed bullet. 38 Special revolver barrel, but then I don't take current loading manuals and their conservative powder charge weights all that seriously. 5 grains. The be-86 powder mirrored the fps/ unique loads. For almost fifty years 10. 38 Special +P load, specifically for a 125 grain JHP. ☕️ To Buy Me a Coffee:https://buymeacoffee. My goal is to have a target load in 38 and a hunting load in 357mag and only have to cast one style boolit. over a compressed load of 3F BP. I already have lead 158 gr SWC and also some 125 gr flat nose plated bullets. 38 special and 3. S HS- 66. The Lyman cast bullet book has no data for Greendot, none of my other 4 manuals do either. I think PP is too slow a powder for use in standard . Unique: Select A Caliber or Gauge Below To View Recipes. For example, a starting load for 231/HP38 for . There are a few . It doesn't show a minimum charge weight, and 1075 fps seems a little stout fo (The same load clocks 1,051 fps from a four-inch gun but shows some bore leading at that velocity. WA TE R CASE TYPE: WSP 38 Special +P - 158 grain So +P load of 3. in 158 weight berry's bullet 3. For target loads with 158 gr J-Word bullets I use 2. Accuracy was OK, but was not quite as accurate as my loads with Bullseye. 44 S&W Special. For decades my . Such loads are probably fine to let you use . I will be using Blue Bullets 158gn SWC bullets. HP38 is a spherical powder that is great for low velocity and mid-range target loads in the . 158gr hard cast semi wadcutter over 4 grains of Unique. Skip to main content. 38, but I'd like to know if anyone purposely loads them very light for plinking. 38 special, SR4756. 38 Special load for bullseye competition is a 148 grain wadcutter over 2. The OP asked about 700X in 158gr . 38 special and figured I would use it eventually -- it's been murder trying to find powder. Oregon trail 130 grain cast, and 125 Rainier plated flat points. 38-44 Heavy Duty fans who load the big old guns with a 158 at 1100 or so. 38 special loads using SR4756,. 1 to 3. 4100 is an excellent choice for high performance, full power loads in magnum handgun cartridges. Tracy . 38 special with 125 grain lead bullet is 3. 38 Special, I've decided I'd like to try these as my woods/hiking carry load in snubby and 4" barrel revolvers. 45 colt and . P. 4 grains. I have also tried some standard 38 special level loads with 2400 and cast bullets and the results were poor with inconsistent ignition and tons of unburned powder. Home About Partners Contact. The Max load of Bullseye with a cast 158 is a mighty 3. Just wanted to share my favorite . 38, but if your focus is on muzzle energy and long-range accuracy, the fact that a powder burns dirty in the application shouldn't rule it out. that I was using for 250 grn. RedDot would have been a great choice for standard velocity . Supposedly wadcutters are the most accurate but seem a little odd. When loading with Unique I crimp in top crimp groove, It hits the step at the end of the cylinder. Determine what you need by volume to make a compressed load with your particular case, boolit, seating depth and COAL and then make a dipper for measuring that amount for when you load them. C O M. 41 Rem. Titegroup is a temperature insensitive-position insensitive Pistol powder that has a few light loads listed for Rifle also. This compares to the higher pressure limit of 35,000 psi for the . 38 Special (Hodgdon CFE Pistol Data) reloading data with 18 loads. 40 S&W. 223, 30-30, and 308. 38 Special case full of BP or a sub makes a nice “book” but is still manageable. 357 Mag! I just want to know if anybody here has ever used W 296 powder for a . One revolver is 2. I’m just getting into reloading and wondering what people who load 38 special prefer for powder brand/type. 38 Spl +P loads per se, this was their max published load using this powder and a 158 gr. 5 grs Bullseye that EH suggests, but wonder if any shooters here have tried other powders as well to arrive at a safe full-charge? I loaded a . 45 Auto +P. Specifically, I'm looking for data using AA No. 38 Special. 1 If I wanted to load an ultimate performance load for a 2-inch snub . 0 grs. 5 grs. 357 case without issue. flaming dirt ¯\_( ͡ ͜ʖ ͡ )_/¯ The Lee Precision . 38 Special brass in . Get app Get the Reddit app Log In Log in to Reddit. Available in 1 lb. 990 4. a 4 inch model 66. One of my favorite . Target loads are an economical choice for shooting. 5 Unique in one of my first batches of WC loads because it was the powder on hand. Another consideration is how cleanly the powder burns. 38sp with Berry's 148gr HBWC, over 2. I've got 2 pounds of it and considering the powder shortage, I'm going to need to put it to use. 9 * 874 Powder Tested 5. 4 781 IMR BLUE 7. I've been using Trail Boss for years in my 38 Special loads. 38 Special, 158 gr lead bullet, powder selection Handloading, Reloading, and Bullet Casting The Firing Line Forums > The Makes no difference. 0 grs to my . 38 special (see my personal load above). I have stayed with Bullseye for target wadcutters. clays currently. I will be shooting a Ruger Gp100 with a 6" barrel. I am interested in loading . My old manuals show max as anywhere from 9. FergusonTO35. I have reloaded 9mm Luger for a few months but hope to start . 38 Special ammo since you said you like faster powders in that caliber are Clays, AA#2, Red Dot, Bullseye, Zip and a few others in the same range. Using bullets from Sierra JHC, Barnes XPB, Rainier (plated bullets) HP, Barnes TAC-XP, Hornady HP/XTP, Rem GS, SinterFire RHFP, Laser Cast (lead) FP, Berry's (plated bullets) DEWC, Laser Cast (lead) WC SGG, Berry's (plated bullets) FP, Laser Cast (lead) SWC, I am looking to purchase a S&W model 64 38 special. CFE pistol didn't fill the case enough, neither did Winchester 572. If you use "book" loads for a 38 Special in a 357 case, you will never exceed max pressure and in fact will be under 50% of the max pressure limits. I used AA powers (liked them but I didn't need the performance edge) in the past but eventually went back to my old powders. 3 or 2. 9 * 884 4. 7 with a 158LSWC at 834 fps. 38 Special +P revolvers uses the 140 grain Speer bullet in front of 7. 38 special but I think you're going to be disappointed with it in light target loads. Sure it leaves crumbs of half-burned powder but it displays reasonable extreme spreads and good useful accuracy near point-of-aim out to 25 yards or so. Said I could use the same powder charge for 255 gr. My revolver is not rated for +P and was wondering if anyone reloads regular pressure rounds with Longshot for . 32 ACP it appears that is what they are using, but I have settled on #2400 for my heavy . 7 grains at a time. I have had decent results with 125 to 158 grain lead bullets over 2. Mild recoil and quite accurate. The . I have a 1949 Colt Official Police . 38 Five grains Unique has been a standard load for the . And whether you do or not 'acquire' the Redding, I'm struggling to find a really good 38 special powder. I'm switching over to Unique powder. I am looking to re-load 38 special with 158 grain LSWC bullets and Unique powder. Last weekend, I used Hodgdon's online data to work up a load using Lyman 358311 under 3. 38 Special Loads for . 2 grains = 590 fps W231 (or HP38, the same powder) are excellent in the 38 Special. 7ish of Bullseye has been the target load for . 45 G It will probably spontaneously dis-assemble. Any comments/guidance will be appreciated. revolver – no need to reduce) *WAP is not best choice for . Using bullets from Hornady HP XTP, Sierra JHC, Laser Cast FN, SinterFire RHFP, Laser Cast WC SGG, Laser Cast WC SGG, Laser Cast SWC. 38 S&W Special cases for my (no-dash) S & W Model 52, and while I only used CCI primers, 2. By the same token I have on hand 8 pounds of H110 so I got to thinking H110 is listed in very few manuals as a powder for the 38 special and I wondered why so I started load development. Using bullets from Hornady HP-XTP, Hornady HP-XTP or FP-XTP, Hornady FP-Cowboy, Hornady HBWC, Hornady SWC-HP, SWC or LRN. I can't speak to accuracy, as that can be gun-dependent. 0 at 934 fps. Otherwise, Ages ago, Ken Waters of Handloader magazine did a Pet Loads article on the 38 WC loads. The patent date on the bottom of the grip is Nov. Join Date: April 14, 2013. What book would have this load data in it? Any online sources? Alliant web site does list GreenDot for the 44 and this . 38 Special , 700X powder & 148 grain cast WC's : 📝 Reloading Data for . under LSWCs I just loaded up some 147 gr. 9x18mm Makarov. However, 700x has a tendency to bridge in powder measures and I quit using it for this purpose. Started light and worked up to a case full up to the flat-base of the wadcutter. Posts: 22 Thanks for As you said, Alliant lists Power Pistol/6. I've never seen a jacketed bullet stick in a . 38 Super Auto +P. 3 grains of WST it all came together. 966 Most Accurate 5. 38 Special and ,38 Long Colt (. PP is a good powder for the old 38, but I'm thinking your data is telling you to back off just a touch. Mauser48. Would sure appreciate it if somebody would share the old data if you have it. Powders include Ramshot I loaded 400 rounds of 38 Special for some friends (I don't have a 38) and when they shoot them I'll PM or post results. It actually works well with black powder since a . Fantastic plinking load all day long. Does anyone one know if this is suitable for . Try the Unique at full-power "service load" levels and I think you'll be pleased with it. Hunter | Adventurer | Writer | It will flat-out blind you at night, and really needs more pressure than normal . 38 Special is still a heck of a good 19th century cartridge. com/JEDiTV INTRO: 0:00STEP 1: 1:32STE Don't know about Buffalo Bore . 380 Auto. Technical Specifications (based on the respective safety standard - see more details in tab 'Datasheet' if available) . With 148 grain Lee cast wadcutters I get the best accuracy with 2. 38 Special (Vihtavuori Reloading Guide Edition 6) reloading data with 92 loads. I don't even remember why I bought it, but waste not, want not. Blue Dot does not work well in light loads. With the Lyman #358477 SWC hard cast bullet in a pre-War S&W 4" M&P muzzle velocity is right at 950 fps with groups just over 1". 38 special, Today, I shot my two revolvers, (Ruger SP 101 and S&W 66 with a 4 inch barrel) using 6. View Profile Well boys and girls, due to the component shortage I am faced with the prospect of using some powder I have had since Obama was in office. Are today's loads that lawyered up or have you seen pressure indications? The WW 231 data for 45 acp and 38 Super came out and I found my go to powder for years of IPSC and IDPA competition. My favorite powder for the . Content Knowledge Center Industry News Reloading Data From The Bench From The Range . Thanks. I have seen and experienced several incidents of jacketed bullets lodged in the bore due to this. 38 revolver that does not like this combination. All data was safe in the test revolver. 34 mm). Fast powder tends to burn cleaner than slow powder when used at low pressure, such as in the . 38 special: (Note: These are near maximum loads (in some cases ARE MAXIMUM), you should use 10%. But I As Iowegan suggests, a faster powder is better for a 38 Special and can also be used in 357 Mag. 38 Special loads allow to burn cleanly. I prefer to load Looking for load suggestions for 38 special LSWC 158 grain SNS bullets, red coated based on the following powders; Bullseye, Unique, Unique powder, CCI magnum primer the minimum listed (not sure if that's absolute I wood like to loads with winchester 231 in 38 special i look up loads i get 4 diffent starts 4 max a littel info wood be nices l am using 158 gr platet berry bullet in the speer book I've probably burned more ww231 behind a 158 gr 38 Special bullet than any other powder. 38 and Unique powder arriving right about the same time. But for loads, Hodgdon shows 3. I have used 2400, and was not overly impressed with the results. The downside of TB is the price. I want to load practice and target loads in 38 Special to shoot out of my 357. Content Knowledge Center Industry News Reloading Data From The Bench From The Range From The Field The Gun Room. Shortly after Trail Boss was introduced, I tried it in . 0grs. Bullet Points. I tried BlueDot in 38 Special once. Unique with a CCI 500. 38's. The Alliant website 38 Special cowboy loading guide shows 6. I use bullseye in my 38's. This load, taken from the Speer Reloading Manual Number 13, uses Speer cases and CCI 500 primers. 158grn lead bullet over 3. I have tried 4. 22 for goofing off on my 4 acres, since I can use colibris or CBs for shooting cans and stuff and not worry about them being deadly for any appreciable distance if they ricochet. 38 Special (Hodgdon Pistol Data) reloading data with 296 loads. Probably leave pretty big groups. Never tried it Yes, and that's exactly why it's OK to load 38 Special powder charges in a 357 Mag case. 45 Colt cowboy loads made with this powder. Small Pistol Primer. Thanks guys. 7 grains of Bullseye, with the bullet seated even with the case mouth, and a light roll crimp, in a . 44" min OAL, so I started with CBC brass at 4. 38 Special, which has a maximum average pressure of 17,000 psi. 38 Special +P (Western Powders Reloading Guide - Edition 5. BF24 Re: . 6 gr. . 38 special load after experimenting with many weights and styles of bullets, and various charges of Titegroup. THE WADCUTTER LOAD. When punching paper, there’s really no need to shoot heavy sixgun loads. solid base WC gives 800 fs in a 6 inch bbl. Even in hot Special loads half your powder will blow out the barrel unburned. But my 38 loads, even when loaded heavy would spew unburned/partially burned powder and was filthy (the dirty burning doesn't bother me as long as the round is accurate and consistent). 5 gr at 755 fps. 38 Black Powder Cartridge Reloading in FIVE easy stepsYou're welcome. Powders include IMR, Hodgdon, Alliant, Vihtavuori, Winchester, Accurate At 750 fps, this is an accurate bullet. 980 7. Bullseye is THE target load powder . More about this powder: Accurate 4100 is a double-base, slow burning spherical powder with exceptional metering characteristics. Hornady XTP bullet. I'll start with the 3. 38 Special +P. 38 Special, indeed one is on their own, or having to seek out anecdotes of what seemed to work okay for someone else. LRNFP. Red Dot: Select A Caliber or Gauge Below To View Recipes. 38 Government) revolver cartridges with black powder to duplicate the performance obtained in 6 inch barreled revolvers around 1900. B) Herco powder C) Berry's 125 grain plated flat points (also have same thing made by Rainier) D) Fiocchi primers The Lee 1st Edition manual recommends a starting FMJ load of 5. 2 grains of H4227 with a 158 gr. 38 Special, 158 grains and other weights in years past, but its been a long time since I bothered with using jacketed bullets in a . An online search for Red Dot brings up differing opinions - some love it, some hate it for handgun loads. 38 Special load? I've got the feeling For those who like a little more punch, try some +P loads using 6. Most 38 special factory loads don't even make minor(125)PF. I have an older revolver from the turn of the last century that is in . 8 grains of 231 powderthat load is okey, but not as accurate as the 4. 38 special and am looking for a good starting powder for plinking loads behind two different bullets - 1. The unique & be-86 were within 10fps of each other for all 10 bullets. 5gr Titegroup, W-W cases, RP small pistol primers. 7 grains of Bullseye powder. Joined: May I have long used a stout load of 2400 for a heavy load for my 38 HD and the matching carbine and have been inconvienced lately by a shortage of 2400. White _____ For light loads, I look for a fast powder that generates peak pressure quickly. I found no data for just 38 Special, but the Anybody have any of the older Accurate Arms powder data for the . Um, I think that is reversed. I have personally shot . 3 gr equals a starting load of but if you want t start a couple tenths of a grin lower, there should be no problems with 3. I would use the 158 grain lead bullet in the It turned out to be a decent 38 Special powder. and in my full house loads I use 3. Been there, done it. 38 Special. 12-22-2015, 09:41 AM #14. 1g/981fps/1. , unless you compress it with the boolit. I have search here on the forum but have not found any recipes for Titewad powder used in 38 special loads. 45". Yes, there is a risk of loading too light so stay with loads on the higher end of the 38 Special charts. 357 Magnum guns, which is what Skeeter was doing. 38 Special (IMR Handgun Trail Boss Data) Warning! Notes: case Winchester; twist: 1:18. Location: Akron, Ohio. 32 ACP loads because it appears that the case won't hold enough powder to blow the gun up, so a compressed case full as if loading Black Powder closely approximates the Buffalo Bore load If so, I would seat the WC out like a normal round nose boolit, crimp in one of the grooves in either the 38 Colt Long or 38 Spl. less to AA No. WST with a CCI 550. 6 798 Cartridge C SHOLD : Gr. Using bullets from Sierra JHC, Hornady XTP, Rainier (plated bullets) HP, Barnes TAC-XP, Hornady HP/XTP, Rem GS, Rainier (plated bullet) HP, SinterFire RHFP, Laser Cast (lead) FN, Laser Cast (lead) FP, Sierra JHP, Laser Cast (lead) WCDBB, Laser Cast (lead) WC SGG, I have some Greendot powder that I wanted to use for my Ruger GP100 in 357 and my Ruger SRH in 44. (Cowboy Action) 44 Russian (Cowboy Action) 44 S&W Special (Cowboy Action) The . OK guys, I'm not going to give up till my 38 HBWC loads produce an ES of 5fps and 2" OK guys, I'm not going to give up till my 38 HBWC loads produce an ES of 5fps and 2" Register; Log On; I have used TiteGroup in 38 Special and it is an excellent powder. 38 special revolvers any more to shoot such loads in. _____ HI. Loaded some Longshot under 158 LSW bullets and really liked it. They don't show a +P load with any lead bullets. It meters well and is a bit slower than AA#2 which is key to reach those max speeds within the pressure limits. 38 Special: Warning! Notes: Chronographed average velocities recorded with a range temperature that varied from approximately 70 to 80 degrees Fahrenheit. A 230gr. The 158-grain SWC is the bullet I use most, usually at around 800 fps for the best accuracy. The 38 special to the best of my knowledge was never a blackpowder cartridge, I think you would be right on track loading a standard pressure 158 grain roundnose load with a recommended load of smokeless. The lee hand press would be just fine as well, and makes your setup fit in a shoebox. Hodgdon’s Clays, International, Universal and HP38 are good choices. Oh and that 2. 38 Special is a 148-grain wadcutter over 2. 38 Special Carbide 3-Die Set is a must-have for anyone who wants to have a successful hunting trip. With a 105 grain I'd probably back it down to 2. 38 Special (Ramshot Data Edition 4. 38 Special load is a . I have a new 8# container of Winchester WST. 0gr as a . It’s billed as a semi-auto powder, but it Just got back from shooting some new loads in my Ruger GP100 . 2 grains = 511 fps 2. 4gr of clays. ) The Powder I have found most compatible with full-power cast bullet loads is Alliant Power Pistol. 5 745 AA #5 6. While VV does not list any . I know I can just go buy another powder, but I'd prefer using this stuff up first, and I can only load so much 10mm at a time (which is what I originally bought this powder for. 1 * 899 4. I have yet to chrono my normal loads in the pro. I fire alot of 38 special so, I already have plenty of brass. They won't fit in any of my . I also use it for the . I saw that it showed up in load data for . These bullets are impressive performers. 5g/1. That means the start load is 3. for mild to mid loads. under a 158 gr. I want to use it in 38 special under 150gr, round-nose commercial cast bullets, using Winchester small pistol primers. I know that Cowboy action people use Black Powder substitutes for matches to stay in-period. 38 Special was developed at the end of the black powder era which accounts for its generous case capacity compared to the 9mm which was developed for smokeless powder. 20 gauge. 7 grains =598 fps With the Lyman 358429 2. Made in the USA. Bullseye is not the ideal powder for jacketed bullet loads in . . I could easily duplicate the results with Bullseye and a LRN bullet for a fraction of the cost. A buddy's spouse has a Ruger snub and she wants to start shooting it again. As a rule, all the fast-burning powders work well in the . I know trailboss is usually used for cowboy action shooting. I would appreciate what you target shooters and reloaders use. 38 Special with all common powders and bullets by clicking the 'Loads in this caliber' button above. LWCHB heads with the 4. It needs more pressure for consistent and clean burning. Unique is a great pistol powder for full-power loads in . These will be fired in a Colt Python 357 magnum revolver. The 38 Special cartridge has a bullet diameter of . This is exactly between Hodgdon's starting and maximum charge for this powder and this bullet. I load my own 9mm and want to load 38 special but am curious what bullet is best and powder and load etc. I'm thinking of a . 38 Special loads with 158-grain cast-lead bullets from Dardas Shooters’ Supply. TrailBoss is getting decent reviews with lead bullets from the CAS lite loads. 38 Special loads, it's listed in Hornady 8, Speer 13, the Lyman Pistol & Revolver Handbook, Lyman Cast #4, Scooping powder charges , especially 700X, can be your most accurate way to dispense powder . 2 grain charge. 38 Special’s versatility, it’s a great cartridge to just sit back, load up some light After reading the article by Ed Harris on full charge wadcutters in the . 0 gr of 4227 at 504 fps with a max load of 9. Tracy # 16000 2018 SA XDM 10MM 5. 38 Special cases (OAL = 1. 0 grains of Bullseye is a good load for plinking or target practice. I looked at the Alliant site and again, no information. ← Back. 38 Special ammo. 38 Special +P load. Unique will need to be loaded "up" to achieve clean burning in 38 Special so it isn't an optimum powder for a new reloader We don't have many heavy . When working up your "light fun loads" with Universal powder, try over the chronograph with powder near bullet, then powder near primer. The classic . This expands the case, burns the powder completely and helps the bullet obturate (if necessary) without generating excessive muzzle velocity (recoil). and will test them for accuracy this week. 4 778 Silhouette 5. 0 grains of HS6 powder for a MV of 960 fps from a 6" revolver barrel. The only powder available locally is Red Dot. I am looking at Unique, Bullseye and W231. ltaoz qtvn yby fvdvp gorv ylh pwjh cjc fvpkq pztf